I like the Jasper Carrott animation about moles.
I,ve not seen that before. Really Funny.
I suppose with a name like that he,s quite acceptable on this website.
I actually saw Jasper Carrott do a show at York University in about 1975.
I don,t recall anything about moles then, only mopeds.
Hi John, I notice that, for some reason, your discussion has been added twice. I hope you won't mind if I delete one so all comments go to the same discussion.
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Proven Practices for Home Gardening
These are based on the internet, US & international agriculture magazines, experiences teaching agriculture in many countries, research and farmer experiences in those countries and a demonstration garden. They are ecologically sustainable, environmentally responsible, socially just and economically viable. There is unlimited, documented proof. On mini-farms the following can double the yields and reduce the labor by half compared to traditional methods. There are 200,000,000 no-till acres worldwide. ¡It works!
Fukaoka Farm, Japan, has been no-till [rice, small grains, vegetables] for 70 years. An Indian gardener has been no-till [vegetables] for 5 years. A Malawi gardener has been no-till [vegetables] on permanent beds for 25 years. A Honduras farmer has been no-till [vegetables & fruit] on permanent beds on the contour (73° slope] for 8 years. Ruth Stout [USA] had a no-till garden for 30 years and 7,000 people visited her garden. In 2006 a Cal urban mini-farm of 1/10 acre produced 6,000 lbs. of vegetables [not organic; not no-till]. OSU/OARDC: gross $90,000 acre. Not organic; not no-till.
1. Willing to change: in the mind & in the garden.
2. Financial: Little funds are needed. A few hand tools, seed, free land available, irrigation water.
3. Restore the soil to its natural health: Contaminations: inorganic pesticides, insecticides, herbicides, fertilizers, etc.
4. Healthy soil: Healthy soil produces healthy vegetables, for high yields, and prevents most of the disease, pest and weed problems.
5. Feed the soil; not the crops [Inorganics feed the plants and poison the soil; organics feed the soil and promote health.]
6. Increase soil organic matter every year
7. Little or no external inputs [not necessary to buy anything, from anybody, for the garden. Certain things are recommended]
8. Leave all crop residue on the beds.
9. No-till: no tilling, no digging, no plowing, no cultivating: No hard physical labor is needed so the elderly, children and lazy people can garden.
10. Permanent beds
11. Permanent paths
12. Hand tools & power-hand tools
13. 12-months production
14. Hoophouses, row covers, shade cloth
15. Greenhouse [DIY but usually not needed]
16. Organic fertilizers [16-20 probably not needed with healthy soil]
17. Organic disease control.
18. Organic herbicides.
19. Organic pesticides.
20. Biological pest control.
21. Attract beneficials
22. Protect pollinators
23. Protect soil organisms
24. Soil always covered
25. Use mulch/green manures/cover crops.
26. Organic matter: Free. Delivered free? When economically feasible, transport to the farm. Use as mulch.
27. Composting: Not necessary except for special use. Too much time and work. Pile excess organic matter until used as mulch.
28. Vermiculture Not necessary. Worms will be in the beds.
29. Crop rotation
30. Inter-cropping
31. Drip irrigation [Purchase or DIY drip lines]
32. Muscovies and Guineas
33. Small animals in pens over beds
34. Legume/grass forages
35. Hay/silage for winter as needed
36. Grains as needed
37. Imitate nature. Most gardeners fight nature. ¡Nature always wins!
When Soil is Tilled
Dr. Elaine Ingham, describes an undisturbed soil—where a wide diversity of plants grow, their roots mingling with a wide diversity of soil organisms—and how it changes when it is plowed. A typical teaspoon of native grassland soil contains between 600 million and 800 million individual bacteria that are members of perhaps 10,000 species. Several miles of fungi are in that teaspoon of soil, as well as 10,000 individual protozoa. There are 20 to 30 beneficial nematodes from as many as 100 species. Root-feeding nematodes are quite scarce in truly healthy soils. They are present, but in numbers so low that it is rare to find them.
After only one tilling, a few species of bacteria and fungi disappear because the food they need is no longer put back in the system. But for the most part, all the suppressive organisms, all the nutrient cyclers, all the decomposers, all the soil organisms that rebuild good soil structure are still present and trying to do their jobs.
But tillage continues to deplete soil organic matter and kill fungi. The larger predators are crushed, their homes destroyed. The bacteria go through a bloom and blow off huge amounts of that savings-account organic matter. With continued tillage, the "policemen" (organisms) that compete with and inhibit disease are lost. The "architects" that build soil aggregates are lost. So are the "engineers"—the larger organisms that design and form the larger pores in soil. The predators that keep bacteria, fungi, and root-feeding organisms in check are lost. Disease suppression declines, soil structure erodes, and water infiltration decreases because mineral crusts form. Dr. Elaine Ingham, BioCycle, December 1998. (From ATTRA News, July 06)
Email me your postal address at minifarms@gmail.com and I will mail you my free gardening dvd. I have been on three other sites for several years but I cannot figure out how this one operates. I rarely receive a posting from others about anything. So I ignore it. The others have dailey postings I receive. I don't understand.
I have been filling my new raised beds with bagged organic soil--$1.33/40# + tax. It looks like great stuff and I find it easier to handle bagged rather than bulk. You had some questions about the quality of it and I welcome you to check it out. I have spread about 2400 lbs so far. I live right next to the Montesori school off Albany.I forgot where you live? I thought you were off Versailles road. I would love to see your "operation"-(garden) soon. Could we make a date at your convenience? Evenings? Jerry Nichols
At 10:19am on February 10, 2009, Sandy Price said…
Well, if someone tells me to look I do, but to be perfectly honest I don't check this site on my own! I read this one because I got an e-mail telling me that you had left me a message. Makes me wonder if I've been missing other messages!
Melissa
I'm asking several people: Question: I usually start a few leeks indoors to extend their season. They get really leggy and fall over. Can I trim them back to encourage the root growth? Will it affect the finished plant? How about onions from seed? Can I trim them?
I would love some of Matt's tomato seeds. None of the the seed catalogs I usually order from have Matt's. I was just about to post asking where people usually get the seeds. Can I send you something in return? I have dixie gold seeds from a yellow slicer I grew last summer. It does well in the south. OR:
red velvet okra, it is spinless so even large pods are good. The stalks and pods are red with yellow flowers. It is as pretty as it is tasty. See http://www.eatseasonally.com/garden_com.php?plant=Red%20Velvet%20Okra
Can I just say.. after being on this website for a month.. and seeing all the various pictures people use to identify themselves.. I really like your picture!
Hi, John,
Have you read Dinner at the New Gene Cafe yet? What did you think? I'm assuming that you've read it, because it's never happened that I got to a food-politics book ahead of you (-;.
Thank you for the email addy !! I am always looking for variations on the food I preserve !! Let us know how yours turns out !! You can`t have too many recipes you know !! I don`t think that I would add sugar till after the brining process !! It c...
You are forgetting one thing !! The person who will be eating the food you prepare !! Yourself !!! If it pleases you,,,I wouldn`t worry about anything else !! Cooking should be an adventure !! I wouldn`t make a comparison unless you have tasted th...
hi jeff, as i suppose you live in crete, do know anything more about the phrase "strafela", is this a usual word in greek?? or is it used just in certain parts of crete?? would be great if you could give me any info about it, thanks, georg
Wow, they are good sized plots. I wish we had allotment areas here in Adelaide.
Do you get to know the other allotment gardeners?.
We have almost finished our composting, pruning back, seed saving and planting out of our seedlings.
With a small ga...
Hi Kathryn
This image is a screenshot from Google Earth. The only drawback with Google Earth is that you cannot zoom in as close as you would like.
I have a greenhouse in the bottom right and a shed and covered compost bin at top right. A lot of t...
Hi Salma
I am lucky in that my allotment is only a short bicycle ride from my house. Some people in larger cities like London have to travel to theirs in a car.
It is interesting to find out from you just how things are in your country. I think as...
How times have changed. There was time when there was no food shortage and agriculture was not a profitable business. The poor farmer was having a hard time. After toiling in the field from dawn to dusk he failed to generate enough money to suppor...
Glenn!British allotment system is quite interesting. It should be initiated here in Pakistan.
Is this alloted land close to your home?
I mean you have to travel to your home kitchen garden to fetch your vegetables ??
I also recommend Seed Savers Exchange. Not only does Heritage Farm offer seeds they've grown, but you can become a member and exchange thousands of seeds with other gardeners. The beauty of seed savers is you can use heirloom seeds that you have g...
........So the story is that this land is under the unlawful use of big wigs.No body dares to touch them.As they are usually in govt.or are the relatives of those in power.That is why I was telling Salma,problem is not simple.It is so intricate,it...
Glenn! we also have the same allotment system.In which about 550 square feet ,(if I am not mistaken) or so is alloted to a family to grow fuel wood on it .Govt. only plants the trees and then the family looks it aftern grow what everthey want alon...
Several people have experienced difficulty putting working links into comments and blogs etc and I know it is clumsy.... so here is how you do it.....
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Then hit the hyperlink button...a pictogram of a chain link.
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Hi, I'm starting to put together a few guidlines on using the discussion forum on here.
I would be happy to hear any comments you may have. This is very much a work in progress so plese feel free to ask me to add anything you think is needed.
I don't want to make our community hide bound by rules and regulations but I think that, as the community has grown, some explanation of what is expected is needed.
Hi Everyone, I've started to collect together recipes from various posts on the site and put them all together here.
If you have a recipe you want to add on here, just post it on the site and leave a comment on my page telling me where it is and I'll go and fetch it back here.
They are organised in Contributor Order but I'm open to better suggestions!
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CT - Connecticut DC - Dist of Columbia * DE - Delaware
FL - Florida GA - Georgia GU
Recently there was an excellent discussion about composting. I’ve pulled together all the various comments here. You can also watch KGI's video on composting here.
KATE’S ADVICE
I used to have a tumbler that we made from a wine-barrel but
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I,ve not seen that before. Really Funny.
I suppose with a name like that he,s quite acceptable on this website.
I actually saw Jasper Carrott do a show at York University in about 1975.
I don,t recall anything about moles then, only mopeds.
I have just commented on the discussion on garlic and loved the idea that you grow such musical garlic!!!!
Voila!!!
Ian
Ian
USA: TX, MS, FL, CA, AR; Mexico, Rep. Dominicana, Côté d’Ivoire, Nigeria, Nicaragua, Honduras, Kenya, Malawi, Mozambique, Haiti, England, India, Uzbekistan
minifarms@gmail.com
Workshops in organic, no-till, permanent bed gardening, mini-farming and mini-ranching worldwide in English & Español
Proven Practices for Home Gardening
These are based on the internet, US & international agriculture magazines, experiences teaching agriculture in many countries, research and farmer experiences in those countries and a demonstration garden. They are ecologically sustainable, environmentally responsible, socially just and economically viable. There is unlimited, documented proof. On mini-farms the following can double the yields and reduce the labor by half compared to traditional methods. There are 200,000,000 no-till acres worldwide. ¡It works!
Fukaoka Farm, Japan, has been no-till [rice, small grains, vegetables] for 70 years. An Indian gardener has been no-till [vegetables] for 5 years. A Malawi gardener has been no-till [vegetables] on permanent beds for 25 years. A Honduras farmer has been no-till [vegetables & fruit] on permanent beds on the contour (73° slope] for 8 years. Ruth Stout [USA] had a no-till garden for 30 years and 7,000 people visited her garden. In 2006 a Cal urban mini-farm of 1/10 acre produced 6,000 lbs. of vegetables [not organic; not no-till]. OSU/OARDC: gross $90,000 acre. Not organic; not no-till.
1. Willing to change: in the mind & in the garden.
2. Financial: Little funds are needed. A few hand tools, seed, free land available, irrigation water.
3. Restore the soil to its natural health: Contaminations: inorganic pesticides, insecticides, herbicides, fertilizers, etc.
4. Healthy soil: Healthy soil produces healthy vegetables, for high yields, and prevents most of the disease, pest and weed problems.
5. Feed the soil; not the crops [Inorganics feed the plants and poison the soil; organics feed the soil and promote health.]
6. Increase soil organic matter every year
7. Little or no external inputs [not necessary to buy anything, from anybody, for the garden. Certain things are recommended]
8. Leave all crop residue on the beds.
9. No-till: no tilling, no digging, no plowing, no cultivating: No hard physical labor is needed so the elderly, children and lazy people can garden.
10. Permanent beds
11. Permanent paths
12. Hand tools & power-hand tools
13. 12-months production
14. Hoophouses, row covers, shade cloth
15. Greenhouse [DIY but usually not needed]
16. Organic fertilizers [16-20 probably not needed with healthy soil]
17. Organic disease control.
18. Organic herbicides.
19. Organic pesticides.
20. Biological pest control.
21. Attract beneficials
22. Protect pollinators
23. Protect soil organisms
24. Soil always covered
25. Use mulch/green manures/cover crops.
26. Organic matter: Free. Delivered free? When economically feasible, transport to the farm. Use as mulch.
27. Composting: Not necessary except for special use. Too much time and work. Pile excess organic matter until used as mulch.
28. Vermiculture Not necessary. Worms will be in the beds.
29. Crop rotation
30. Inter-cropping
31. Drip irrigation [Purchase or DIY drip lines]
32. Muscovies and Guineas
33. Small animals in pens over beds
34. Legume/grass forages
35. Hay/silage for winter as needed
36. Grains as needed
37. Imitate nature. Most gardeners fight nature. ¡Nature always wins!
youtube.com/watch?v=hOQkBP5nioY
youtube.com/watch?v=mMd53OOaah4
youtube.com/watch?v=ymBXgMOsVJg
Ken Hargesheimer
When Soil is Tilled
Dr. Elaine Ingham, describes an undisturbed soil—where a wide diversity of plants grow, their roots mingling with a wide diversity of soil organisms—and how it changes when it is plowed. A typical teaspoon of native grassland soil contains between 600 million and 800 million individual bacteria that are members of perhaps 10,000 species. Several miles of fungi are in that teaspoon of soil, as well as 10,000 individual protozoa. There are 20 to 30 beneficial nematodes from as many as 100 species. Root-feeding nematodes are quite scarce in truly healthy soils. They are present, but in numbers so low that it is rare to find them.
After only one tilling, a few species of bacteria and fungi disappear because the food they need is no longer put back in the system. But for the most part, all the suppressive organisms, all the nutrient cyclers, all the decomposers, all the soil organisms that rebuild good soil structure are still present and trying to do their jobs.
But tillage continues to deplete soil organic matter and kill fungi. The larger predators are crushed, their homes destroyed. The bacteria go through a bloom and blow off huge amounts of that savings-account organic matter. With continued tillage, the "policemen" (organisms) that compete with and inhibit disease are lost. The "architects" that build soil aggregates are lost. So are the "engineers"—the larger organisms that design and form the larger pores in soil. The predators that keep bacteria, fungi, and root-feeding organisms in check are lost. Disease suppression declines, soil structure erodes, and water infiltration decreases because mineral crusts form. Dr. Elaine Ingham, BioCycle, December 1998. (From ATTRA News, July 06)
Email me your postal address at minifarms@gmail.com and I will mail you my free gardening dvd. I have been on three other sites for several years but I cannot figure out how this one operates. I rarely receive a posting from others about anything. So I ignore it. The others have dailey postings I receive. I don't understand.
Melissa
I would love some of Matt's tomato seeds. None of the the seed catalogs I usually order from have Matt's. I was just about to post asking where people usually get the seeds. Can I send you something in return? I have dixie gold seeds from a yellow slicer I grew last summer. It does well in the south. OR:
red velvet okra, it is spinless so even large pods are good. The stalks and pods are red with yellow flowers. It is as pretty as it is tasty. See http://www.eatseasonally.com/garden_com.php?plant=Red%20Velvet%20Okra
5th generation large leaf sweet basil
Have you read Dinner at the New Gene Cafe yet? What did you think? I'm assuming that you've read it, because it's never happened that I got to a food-politics book ahead of you (-;.
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Hi, I'm starting to put together a few guidlines on using the discussion forum on here.
I would be happy to hear any comments you may have. This is very much a work in progress so plese feel free to ask me to add anything you think is needed.
I don't want to make our community hide bound by rules and regulations but I think that, as the community has grown, some explanation of what is expected is needed.
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If you have a recipe you want to add on here, just post it on the site and leave a comment on my page telling me where it is and I'll go and fetch it back here.
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Recently there was an excellent discussion about composting. I’ve pulled together all the various comments here. You can also watch KGI's video on composting here.
KATE’S ADVICE
I used to have a tumbler that we made from a wine-barrel but
1 you have to fill it up all at once
2. it seemed mostly
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