Hi Ed,
All is cool... I like you. I like your saltiness. And I like that you pushed me to really write more deeply on my beliefs.. and it is important that not all have the same exact viewpoints. For sure. My book: "If I gave you God's phone number....Searching for Spirituality in America" really drew out how each of us has a unique God-space, call it what you will..
And I have to catch myself for not being dogmatic or proselytizing, which I fear I might have been a wee bit guilty of here on KGI... forgive me. ;~)
Glad to be chatting with you, regardless.. And here's to a rainy day in MD so I have time to 'chat' like this on a Sunday.. believe me, I would not have a computer on in the house if the weather was clearer.
;~) m
Ed, I'd love to introduce you to my Cheroke medicine woman teacher.. you'd be amazed the thing that rocks/stones tell her. The stories that they can tell you, it's rather wild.
I'm at the point where I can hear whether they want to come home with me or not, and sometimes I hear more, but my teacher can have long chats with them. They are quite sad, kinda universally, that they are not respected the way that they used to be...
I could go on and on here.. but stones have stories to share.. for those who can learn to listen. But it does take a long time to tune into them. I've been working outside as a gardener and studying with my teacher for 13 years and it's only in the past two years or so that I've started to really hear them better. I can hear plants far better... They have very interesting things to share and can be quite opinionated too. It's a hoot.
Anyhow.. hope this is not boring you. And no, I'm not schizophrenic either. ;~)
all the best,
m
I understand I read your comments in the Sacred Gardening discussion, so I know where you are coming from.
However, there's nothing wrong with talking to rocks, as long as you don't expect an answer writ in granite (pun intended), I think that if you "get" an answer, it's probably your own psyche that's responding. That's fine, if people get insights from talking to rocks, more power to them, I just would raise an eyebrow if someone said a "rock" told them to go and murder people... sorta like son of sam.
Meditating with a rock in your hand though can lead to some interesting insights, especially if you sort of mentally explore what processes were involved in creating that rock (is it carbonaceous, is it crystalline, where did it come from, what created it, what conditions existed, etc.). Sometimes an inanimate object, if you focus your thoughts on it's characteristics or symbolism (like a tarot card), can lead you to new insights, which can LOOK like divination (I don't think it is, I think you are just tapping into that shadowy thing people call "intuition". The cards, the stone aren't actually esoterically magical in themselves, they are just tools that trigger symbolism in the brain.) Ack I'm going into minutae, pardon me.
Anyway, I won't look at you cock-eyed if you talk to rocks, I just may look cross-eyed at you if you told me that gave you a new Epicurian recipe. :)
Absolutely, Ed. In fact, I'll share an observation I made last spring about acorn woodpeckers. I feed the birds, and I just love to watch them, and I have a clan of acorn woodpeckers, I noticed they all seem to be a family group that sticks together, amicably breeding apparently non-mongamously. But they seem like very happy birds. Later on I read that what I was seeing was precisely what was happening with them.
And I think that sometimes, you observe things and you may not even be consciously aware of the "lesson" learned but you internalize it and that knowledge influences how you approach things. Sorta like breathing in Earth Wisdom.
Why thanks Ed! I've been studying for a long time. :) By the time I die I hope that I will have a lot of these things down. :) You never stop learning though, from the natural world.
This thing has thrown me out twice...after I had a lengthy note written! Rosemary is easy to grow...it will get quite large and beinh woody, can tolerate the dryness fairly well. I have pineapple sage, which the humming birds and butterflies love. It smells like pineapple and grows like wild...has a woody stem when it grows awhile and is quite easy. Lemon balm has a wonderful fragrance and grows much like the mint. I don't know what it is used
for but I just like the fragrance. Hope you find some you like!
I think it is considered an herb. It is something I have never grown. Of the ones I have grown most require regular watering(don't let it get overly dry) but some of them, grow lavishly with no care at all...eg mints. I have mint all over my yard! Marjoram is one of my favorites and it does not like excessive heat but flourishes in cold weather. The present condition of only being able to water on certain days(twice a week) is unbearable for plants in my area. They dry out in one day~~~we get lots of wind here and no protection from it. If all things would grow like mint, I would be thrilled! I had dill at one point, that grew to be nearly as tall as me, and came up voluntarily the next season. The next year, I had saved seeds, I tried broadcasting them and not a one came up! Try the local home extension service associate with your local college...it may give you some good growing information on herbs and other things. Ours is through the University of Florida. Mostly, I just ask at the garden stores when I purchase something new. Other than that it is trial and error. I love trying new things and when I go somewhere(out of town), I always look for new things to take home and try. Some people see gardening as a real challenge but it is something in my blood and it is such a rewarding thing. It is excellent "therapy" and good exercise! Hope this helps a little. My gardening is pretty low tech...have a great weekend!
Giving up was never on my mind. I love my garden. I am doing it little at a time. I believe in two years it will look just like my garden dreams. I save my seeds, make my own compost and sooner or later the entire lot of hard clay and gravel will become the most beautiful and fruitful garden in this neighborhood!!!
Hi Ed,
I did cut down some of those trees, but it's hard, my husband doesn't like the outdoors, I cut them down with my little saw all by myself. They there are stumps.
The deers are no problem because I have a fence around the property, the next project is to fence in the garden, so the dogs don't dig or "fertilize" the area...
I knew there was something I liked about you! My mother is full Irish, born in England (of all places for an Irishman to be born). So that makes me 50% Irish. The rest is Cherokee. Whatever you do..... don't get me mad! It's a lethal combination, believe me, I know already!
Good morning Ed, my dear friend. Remember the scripture... Luke 20:39-40
Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, "Teacher, rebuke your disciples!" "I tell you," he replied, "if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out."
I agree... I am not inclined to speak to stones either, but they speak to me, quietly, as part of the whole of God's creation. (loudly sometimes in my garden bed! or little tiny ones in my shoe!) You and mama have a beautiful day today!
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All is cool... I like you. I like your saltiness. And I like that you pushed me to really write more deeply on my beliefs.. and it is important that not all have the same exact viewpoints. For sure. My book: "If I gave you God's phone number....Searching for Spirituality in America" really drew out how each of us has a unique God-space, call it what you will..
And I have to catch myself for not being dogmatic or proselytizing, which I fear I might have been a wee bit guilty of here on KGI... forgive me. ;~)
Glad to be chatting with you, regardless.. And here's to a rainy day in MD so I have time to 'chat' like this on a Sunday.. believe me, I would not have a computer on in the house if the weather was clearer.
;~) m
I'm at the point where I can hear whether they want to come home with me or not, and sometimes I hear more, but my teacher can have long chats with them. They are quite sad, kinda universally, that they are not respected the way that they used to be...
I could go on and on here.. but stones have stories to share.. for those who can learn to listen. But it does take a long time to tune into them. I've been working outside as a gardener and studying with my teacher for 13 years and it's only in the past two years or so that I've started to really hear them better. I can hear plants far better... They have very interesting things to share and can be quite opinionated too. It's a hoot.
Anyhow.. hope this is not boring you. And no, I'm not schizophrenic either. ;~)
all the best,
m
However, there's nothing wrong with talking to rocks, as long as you don't expect an answer writ in granite (pun intended), I think that if you "get" an answer, it's probably your own psyche that's responding. That's fine, if people get insights from talking to rocks, more power to them, I just would raise an eyebrow if someone said a "rock" told them to go and murder people... sorta like son of sam.
Meditating with a rock in your hand though can lead to some interesting insights, especially if you sort of mentally explore what processes were involved in creating that rock (is it carbonaceous, is it crystalline, where did it come from, what created it, what conditions existed, etc.). Sometimes an inanimate object, if you focus your thoughts on it's characteristics or symbolism (like a tarot card), can lead you to new insights, which can LOOK like divination (I don't think it is, I think you are just tapping into that shadowy thing people call "intuition". The cards, the stone aren't actually esoterically magical in themselves, they are just tools that trigger symbolism in the brain.) Ack I'm going into minutae, pardon me.
Anyway, I won't look at you cock-eyed if you talk to rocks, I just may look cross-eyed at you if you told me that gave you a new Epicurian recipe. :)
And I think that sometimes, you observe things and you may not even be consciously aware of the "lesson" learned but you internalize it and that knowledge influences how you approach things. Sorta like breathing in Earth Wisdom.
for but I just like the fragrance. Hope you find some you like!
I did cut down some of those trees, but it's hard, my husband doesn't like the outdoors, I cut them down with my little saw all by myself. They there are stumps.
The deers are no problem because I have a fence around the property, the next project is to fence in the garden, so the dogs don't dig or "fertilize" the area...
Yes, let there be rain!
Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, "Teacher, rebuke your disciples!" "I tell you," he replied, "if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out."
I agree... I am not inclined to speak to stones either, but they speak to me, quietly, as part of the whole of God's creation. (loudly sometimes in my garden bed! or little tiny ones in my shoe!) You and mama have a beautiful day today!
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